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		<title>My Experience Buying A New Car</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I spent some time shopping for a new car. A dear friend of mine, Ahmad, recommended some good internet resources. These helped me find out how good was each deal that I got. He also helped me with some different issues in financing and mechanical/design things. I will try to briefly explain the steps [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">Recently I spent some time shopping for a new car. A dear friend of mine, <a title="Ahmad Rahmati" href="http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~rahmati/" target="_blank">Ahmad</a>, recommended some good internet resources. These helped me find out how good was each deal that I got. He also helped me with some different issues in financing and mechanical/design things.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I will try to briefly explain the steps that I took, and how they were useful. As usual, it is just my experience. Verify everything and decide for your own. Here is a summary of links if you are in a hurry:</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Edmunds Forums" href="http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef17997/">Edmunds Paid Price and Buying Experience Forum<br />
</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.occ.treas.gov/aprwin.htm">Annual Percentage Rate Calculation Program</a></li>
<li><a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/calculator/index#loans" target="_self">Yahoo! Finance Resources</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.edmunds.com/new/index.html" target="_blank">Edmunds Price Estimator<br />
</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.vertex42.com/Calculators/auto-loan-calculator.html" target="_blank">Excel Sheet Auto Loan Calculator</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/" target="_blank">Edmunds Long-Term Road Test Blog</a></li>
<li><a title="Confessoins of a car salesman" href="http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html" target="_blank">Confessions of a Car Salesman</a></li>
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<p>Read more about my experience using these links below&#8230;<span id="more-93"></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Find out the price range</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: justify;">You need to decide: (a) how much down payment you can afford (b) how much you can pay each month, if you are looking for auto loan. Please note that buying a new car will change amount of monthly insurance and gas payment from what you spend now.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Once these two are decided for, you can estimate the final price of the car you are looking for. Some companies have reverse calculators. You enter monthly payment and down payment and they tell you what car and what total price you can buy. Honda has a simple tool <a title="Honda's Reverse Auto Loan" href="http://automobiles.honda.com/tools/shopping.aspx?Function=new_reverse_calculator" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Later in the process I used software like <a title="Annual Percentage Rate Calculation Program" href="http://www.occ.treas.gov/aprwin.htm" target="_blank">Annual Percentage Rate Calculation Program</a>. Better than that was a <a title="Auto Loan Calculator" href="http://www.vertex42.com/Calculators/auto-loan-calculator.html" target="_blank">Excel sheet auto loan calculator</a>. I used it to calculate some different prices that I guessed. I had these prints with me, and was able to catch an <em>unannounced</em> change in price in one dealership. Saved me $1000!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This step helped me narrow my search to a smaller number of models.</p>
<ul>
<li>What make and models are close to my price range? Which of them have good reviews?</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I looked at <a title="Consume Reports Cars" href="http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/" target="_blank">Consumer Reports annual special issue for new cars.</a> They have classified cars based on price, quality, consumer satisfaction and other factors. I don&#8217;t know much about cars and their reviews were consistent with what my know-about-cars friend told me. I also asked a couple of friends who had recently bought cars. This narrowed my search to base model of Honda Fit and Nissan Versa 1.8S.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">One important thing is to check which cars are going to be redesigned. If a car is redesigned next year, your new car will look &#8220;old&#8221; from the moment the new design comes out.</p>
<ul>
<li>What options these model have that are useful for me?</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Again, I consulted friends who had driven the same car before as well as online resources and Consumer Reports. Specially I liked the Edmunds&#8217; <a title="Long-Term Road Tests Blog" href="http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/" target="_blank">Long-Term Road Tests Blog</a>. Also, Edmunds has a step by step price estimator, during which you can select options and see the prices. In this step I decided I liked to have ABS and cruise control options in the Versa. Honda Fit did not have any option for the base model.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Also note that some options are always installed on cars. For instance most Nissan Versas that I saw have splash guard installed by default. I realized this when I checked inventories of Nissan dealerships in my area. You can either check their inventories from <a title="Nissan USA" href="http://www.nissanusa.com/" target="_blank">Nissan&#8217;s main website</a> or local inventories. Also you can search third party sites like <a title="AutoTrader.com" href="http://www.autotrader.com" target="_blank">AutoTrader.com</a> or <a title="Cars.com" href="http://www.cars.com" target="_blank">Cars.com</a>. My experience was the inventory of Nissan&#8217;s main website was not up-to-date. Also, the third party websites did not have all the details of options installed on the cars sometimes.</p>
<ul>
<li>Talking with dealers and finding good deals</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I tried getting online quotes from dealers through Nissan&#8217;s main website. The result was not so interesting. Then I tried using the third party websites and Edmunds.com. The ones I contacted using Edmunds.com were the ones I got good price quotes from.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">After the initial quote, I had around 10 emails passed back and forth, negotiating the price. They made &#8220;mistakes&#8221; sometimes and quoted me the MSRP. I would remind them the fact that I have a better quote, and then they would correct their quote. Ahmad just reminded me that there is no need to mention you are getting financing from them before going to their dealership. In fact what I did was I would let them convince me that I needed the financing from them. This makes negotiating easier, as you still have the &#8220;upper hand&#8221; somehow.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I noticed, with Ahmad&#8217;s help, that Nissan had an incentive choice of either $1000 cash back or a %1.9 APR. Most dealers would give a price quote with the $1000 reduced. So when I mentioned I am getting the APR in the dealership, they would jump $1000 up. When getting quotes, ask them for quotes &#8220;before reducing any incentives applied&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">One good website to see the price quotes others get is the Edmunds forums. I usually searched <a title="Versa+paid+price" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Versa%2Bpaid%2Bprice" target="_blank"><em>Versa+paid+price</em></a> in Google to reach the forum. The first result is usually the answer: <a title="Paid Price and Buying Experience" href="http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef17997/" target="_blank">http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef17997/</a> You can check the prices and see what is the good prices people get. This should be way lower than the MSRP unless the car is in high demand. In my case the MSRP was $1350 higher than the final price I paid. Worth the time, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<ul>
<li>Test drive, negotiate and buy</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Test Drive:</strong></span> During the test drive I only tested how was the visibility and how I liked the shape of the car. Also I asked a friend to come with me, and before the test drive when the dealer was driving I would seat in the back seat and see how was the back of the car. After the drive I would write down the VIN number of the car.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Price:</strong></span> I usually would almost finalize a price over email with the dealer. Telephone price quotes are hard to prove and the dealer may claim there was a &#8220;mistake&#8221;. I would ask every detail, i.e. the VIN and the options and price before incentives, to be sent to me with email. Then I would take prints of the emails from all dealers when going to see a dealer. The prints are very useful for negotiating. I got a lower price from a dealer to &#8220;match the price&#8221; of another dealer, just by showing their printed quote. Also if you are trying to get an incentive that the main company provides, print that page and have it with you.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Buying:</strong></span> During the final buying step, I just made sure nothing other than what was agreed was there in the price break down, of course by mistake. Also, the accompanying friend told me that the &#8220;finance&#8221; person that I was supposed to talk after the dealer was in fact a sales person for the extended warranty stuff.  &#8220;Just say no!&#8221;., he recommended. Go through the documents that you sign, take your time and check this is what you want. I also wrote the VIN number on the check for down payment, just in case.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This is my experience and I hope to update here in near future if I remember something more. Hope it helps you get a better price. Again, verify everything. I don&#8217;t share your car with you, and I don&#8217;t share the trouble either <img src='http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Good luck with your new car!</p>
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		<title>26 Channels, 26 Years</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ehsan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my lab-colleague friends Ryan created 15 images for our Ember Zigbee devices to run on all the channels up to 26. We jokingly attributed it to my 26th birthday today, as well as an April 1st joke. Anyways, I prefer to regard it as my birthday cake and its candles Here is a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my lab-colleague friends Ryan created 15 images for our Ember Zigbee devices to run on all the channels up to 26. We jokingly attributed it to my 26<sup>th</sup> birthday today, as well as an April 1<sup>st</sup> joke. Anyways, I prefer to regard it as my birthday cake and its candles <img src='http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here is a screenshot of the Wi-Spy readings inside our Faraday cage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/15zigbees.png" title="15 Zigbee devices running on separate channels in Faraday Cage"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/15zigbees.png" rel="lightbox" title="15 Zigbee devices running on separate channels in Faraday Cage"><img src="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/15zigbees.thumbnail.png" alt="15 Zigbee devices running on separate channels in Faraday Cage" height="169" width="230" /></a></p>
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		<title>Internet Privacy: fact or fiction?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ehsan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading a news article on Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) being forced to take down University Toolkit for violation of GPL license, I started to think how deep our privacy is being violated. As Brian Kerb of Washington post describes in his article, the University Toolkit is essentially a monitoring software, just identifying people [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading a <a title="MPAA Takes University Toolkit Offline For GPL Violation" href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20071204/033515.shtml" target="_blank">news article</a> on Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) being forced to take down University Toolkit for violation of GPL license, I started to think how deep our privacy is being violated. As Brian Kerb of Washington post describes in his article, the University Toolkit is essentially a monitoring software, just <a title="Privacy is not a crime" href="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/privacy-is-not-a-crimel.gif" rel="lightbox"><img title="Privacy is not a crime" src="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/privacy-is-not-a-crimel.thumbnail.gif" border="0" alt="Privacy is not a crime" align="right" /></a>identifying people with highest amount of network traffic with the file name, port address and traffic volume.</p>
<p>Beyond the irony of a copyright enforcing institution having to take down a software because of copyright violation, the software itself really annoys me. Imagine such observation shows some illegal activity going on the university network. Can this observation be used in a court of law? If not, why should such observation be done then. If yes, is it not a violation of &#8220;reasonable expectation of privacy&#8221;? If tapping someone&#8217;s internet activity is considered legal without a court order, same would hold for phone wire tapping. I am sure there is a problem in here, a huge problem!</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Brian Krebs" href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/11/mpaa_university_toolkit_opens_1.html" target="_blank">Washingtonpost: Brian Krebs: MPAA University &#8216;Toolkit&#8217; Raises Privacy Concerns</a></li>
<li><a title="The inetnert, computers and privacy on Wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#The_Internet.2C_computers.2C_and_privacy_in_relation_to_the_Fourth_Amendment" target="_blank">Wikipedia: The Internet, computers, and privacy in relation to the Fourth Amendment</a></li>
<li><a title="EFF on Privacy" href="http://www.eff.org/issues/privacy" target="_blank">Electronic Frontier Foundation on Privacy</a></li>
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		<title>Agreement Literature</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ehsan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You understand you have been reading agreements too much, when your answer  to an e-mail from your &#8220;roommate-to-be&#8221; begins with: I answer what you had asked in the same numbering order. But please note that I answer to the best of my knowledge and just to help you with estimates. Hence it is your own [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You understand you have been reading agreements too much, when your answer  to an e-mail from your &#8220;roommate-to-be&#8221; begins with:</p>
<blockquote><p>I answer what you had asked in the same numbering order. But please note that I answer to the best of my knowledge and just to help you with estimates. Hence it is your own responsibility to verify anything, in case such answer is the basis for your decisions.</p></blockquote>
<p>I was about to add &#8220;The responder holds himself not responsible in any way for any damage or misunderstanding caused by the answers provided&#8221;. But then felt this is too hostile for a new roommate!</p>
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		<title>diggy night</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 03:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ehsan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#8217;t resist writing it. Takes 5 minutes of my qualifier exam time, but is worth it. A digg user posted an item about a HD-DVD code, and the fact it was taken down because of a takedown notice. Digg removed that. People noticed that and informed each other of Digg&#8217;s removing the dugg story. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t resist writing it. Takes 5 minutes of my qualifier exam time, but is worth it.</p>
<p>A digg user posted an item about a HD-DVD code, and the fact it was taken down because of a takedown notice. Digg removed that. People noticed that and informed each other of Digg&#8217;s removing the dugg story. But Digg removed those too. People dugg all of this again, Digg un-dugged. People dugg, &#8230;.</p>
<p>The result? Look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/digg-top.JPG" title="Direct link to file"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/digg-top.JPG" onclick="return false;" title="Direct link to file" rel="lightbox"><img src="http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/digg-top.thumbnail.JPG" title="Digg attack" alt="Digg attack" border="0" height="128" width="83" /></a></p>
<p>You think it is over? NO! The same is happening with Wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDVD_Night" title="Wiki on HDDVD_Night" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDVD_Night</a>. People [write in] wiki, Wiki removes. People (write in) wiki, &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Tragedy at Virginia Tech</title>
		<link>http://www.nourbakhsh.ir/blog/2007/04/tragedy-at-virginia-tech/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ehsan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so sad to witness people lose their lives. There is no need to say how depressing, shocking and terrible it is to know they were some young students, attending their daily classes. This is so sad, so unacceptable. Even in something like this some people show courage: Liviu Librescu, 76, an engineering science [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so sad to witness people lose their lives. There is no need to say how depressing<span style="font-size: 12pt"></span>, shocking and terrible it is to know they were some young students, attending their daily classes.  This is so sad, so unacceptable.</p>
<p>Even in something like this some people show  courage:</p>
<blockquote><p> Liviu Librescu, 76, an engineering science and mathematics lecturer, tried to stop the gunman from entering his classroom by blocking the door before he was fatally shot, his son said Tuesday from Tel Aviv. [<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_eu/virginia_tech_world_view" target="_blank">Yahoo! news</a>]</p></blockquote>
<p>I truly  sympathize with families of the victims.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1611569,00.html">Time.com Report</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www/spotlight/virginia-tech.html">UT Dallas Responds</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www2.irna.com/en/news/view/line-22/0704178264163914.htm">Iran expressing sentiments of condolence<br />
</a></li>
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		<title>frustrated</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ehsan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#8217;t it annoying that you know no matter how you try, finally you are going to be a graduate from a 74th ranking university in US? Not even in the first 50! Why did they announce it so proudly? UPDATE: Well, it seems another ranking thinks better about UTD. It is again announced here. This [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it annoying that you know no matter how you try, finally you are going to be a graduate from a 74<sup>th</sup> ranking university in US? Not even in the first 50! Why did they <a href="http://www.utdallas.edu/news/archive/2007/0409002.html" target="_blank">announce it</a> so proudly?</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000">UPDATE:</font> Well, it seems <a href="http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1247001.1247010&amp;coll=ACM&amp;dl=ACM&amp;idx=1247001&amp;part=periodical&amp;WantType=periodical&amp;title=Communications%20of%20the%20ACM&amp;CFID=20721372&amp;CFTOKEN=80022797" title="Automatic and versatile publications ranking for research institutions and scholars" target="_blank">another ranking</a> thinks better about UTD. It is again <a href="http://www.utdallas.edu/news/archive/2007/0608001.html" target="_blank">announced here</a>.  This method of ranking is more based on publication count and academic participation. Computer Sciences program of University of Texas at Dallas is ranked 3<sup>rd</sup> in Texas and 29<sup>th</sup> in the United States.</p>
<p><u>Moral of the story</u>: measurement and ranking is never complete, and so not reliable. But since it gives you one single number to consider, it is easier to use. So, many people do rely on the rankings with a confidence much more than the way they should.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000">UPDATE2, six months later:</font> Just a quick note: UTD has no school pride. The only type of sport it has is CHESS and DEBATE!! [<a href="http://community.livejournal.com/utd/111526.html" title="UTD fight song" target="_blank">a suggested fight song</a>] There is no social life going on in the university housing. The bookstore does not even have enough stuff (like wallets) with UTD logo on them. We don&#8217;t have a football team, although even Rice with 5,000 students has one. You don&#8217;t see students in the campus, no one walks. Everyone is either in their car or in class or lab. The student union is small for the 14,000 students school has. So most people lunch out. The food courts all close very early, so at night or in weekends you *should* dine out. Without a car, life is not possible. The school is in the suburb, and is literary in the middle of nowhere. Compare to SMU which is in the middle of Dallas. UTD is not known in the DF/W area, you tell people you study in UT Dallas and they get surprised that UT has a branch in here. Isn&#8217;t all of these depressing?</p>
<p>In return for all this nerd and unkind atmosphere, I really expected the school to have a higher ranking. So such low ranking is really disappointing.</p>
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<li> The UTD Mercury: <a href="http://media.www.utdmercury.com/media/storage/paper691/news/2007/10/01/Opinion/Seeking.A.Solution.To.The.Utdoldrums-3000336.shtml?reffeature=recentlycommentedstoriestab" title="UTD Mercury writes about the problem of having no social life in UTD" target="_blank">Seeking a solution to the UTDoldrums</a></li>
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